Eurostand 2008
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Så får man heller stramme inn på interne regler så man slipper slike feil senere.
Håper dette er første og siste ganga.
Ellers er det bare å st på FT!Kommentar
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Unger... Blir oppgitt. Når begynte kfl å bry seg om hva andre mener a? Skal vi sette oss ned å grine da fordi noen fra andre supportergrupper ler av oss? Alle kan gjøre feil så slutt og sutre...
Og pipinga mot stabæk?......! Trudde piping var forbeholdt alarmer og brann-supportere jeg. Bruk heller tida på å heie fram våre egne.!!!***Større baller enn vett***Kommentar
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Her er opplegget rundt Eurostand08:
* Alle supporterklubber oppfordres til å gå ut i lokal media med spesifikk info om de 5 punktene vi protesterer mot
* Alle supporterklubber vil få tilsendt en flyer (på norsk) som kan printes ut og distribueres
* Alle supporterklubber oppfordres til å gjøre tilhørende lag/spillergruppe oppmerksomme på demonstrasjonen samt spesifisere at det på ingen måte er en protest mot klubben/laget.
* Alle supporterklubber oppfordres til å legge ut info om Eurostand '08 på sin egen hjemmeside
Når det gjelder gjennomføring av selve demonstrasjonen så vil nærmere informasjon om denne komme fra NSA i løpet av de nærmeste dagene. Dette gjøres i ett forsøk på å nasjonalt samkjøre mest mulig mtp. bannere (logo, farger, tekst) o.l.
1. Maksimalt med synging inntil spillerne kommer ut av tunellen. Det vil også medføre at klubbhymner a la "Her kommer Molde" og "Når de blå marsjerer inn" utsettes til ETTER punkt 3 er utført. (molde sanger)
2. Opp med Eurostand '08 bannere/flagg men INGEN annen form for TIFO under spillerpresentasjon.
3. Evt. klubb-TIFO spares til 2. omgang og presenteres da.
4. Stillhet og "sittende supportere" fra kampen blåses i gang intil stadionuret viser 15:00
5. Full trøkk med synging/dansing ut kampenKommentar
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Eurostandflyer
Sitt ned for å få stå!
Denne serierunden aksjonerer supportere over hele Europa. I Norge gjør
vi det gjennom å sitte ned og holde kjeft det første kvarteret av dagens
kamp for deretter å gi alt vi har på tribunen.
Hvorfor aksjon?
Utviklingen i den moderne fotballen rammer oss som supportere. I
dag protesterer vi først og fremst mot tre ting som er ødeleggende for
supporterkulturen:
Kun sitteplasser
UEFA og NFF presser på for å hindre oss i å stå på fotballkamper.
Senest i forrige uke hadde supporteralliansen og NFF en konflikt rundt
dette på landskamper. Din rett til å stå på kamp er under massivt press.
Stående, syngende supportere er en viktig del av supporterkulturen og
fotballopplevelsen. Uten dette blir fotballkamper som en hvilken som helst
annen sport.
Stadig økende priser
Prisene på norske arenaer øker stadig. I dag er det ikke uvanlig å måtte
betale både 300 og 400 kroner for en plass. Dette gjør at det blir vanskelig
for familier og folk med dårlig økonomi å få sett laget sitt. Vi ønsker at
fotballen skal være for alle, ikke bare de som har god råd.
Flytting av kamper
Flytting av kamper på kort varsel er et stort problem i Norsk og
internasjonal fotball. Det gjør det vanskelig å planlegge borteturer, og
reisekostnadene blir høyere fordi turen må planlegges så sent. Det fører til
færre reisende supportere og dårligere stemning på kampene.
Du kan lese mer om aksjonen på www.eurostand08.comPetter Ø - Kreativ Kanaris
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Jeg skjønner behovet for markering, men hvordan i alle dager skal en slik markering være effektiv??? Tror virkelig ikke at det man demonstrerer i mot forsvinner av den grunn...
Ved neste match er alle like fornøyde og "de store gutta" fortsetter som før...Kommentar
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Bra å ta et standpunkt!
Jeg synes det er bra at det er noen som trår fram og sier ifra! Dette er en markering som kan ha noe effekt, hvis alle supportere er med på dette. Det er lett å klage og syte, men det er kanskje ikke så lett å handle...
Ja til markering av Eurostand 2008Heia Fetsundrånern! Søgård er rå!!!Kommentar
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Faen, nå har nesten samtlige supporterklubber i tippeligaen dette ute på nettet.
Kan noen i styret skrive en sak om dette å legge ut på forsida?
Vi skal jo gå i bresjen for en slik aksjon da alle punktene er viktig for oss!
Få ut fingeren nå!
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Aksjonsformen "sitt ned og hold kjeft" i ett kvarter har jeg svært stor tro på så lenge alle supportergruppene tar ansvar og sørger for at intensjonen blir fulgt opp! Effektiviteten ligger i at man får synliggjort forskjellen både for TV-publikum og de "vanlige" tilskuerne på kampen. Fra det å sitte og være stille til å ta det helt ut på positiv ultras-manér med hopping, flagging og massiv synging bør gi en svært tydelig markering av forskjellen.
Forhåpentligvis vil noen ha savna oss det ene kvarteret!Vidar Evje
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Nå ser jeg at fler og fler supporterklubber legger saken ut på forsida deres. KFL få ut fingern!Kanarifugla flyr høyt i år!Kommentar
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Ser ut som nærmere 100% oppdekking.
Sjekket Adecco også, men fant bare 2 supporterklubber som er med der. (lette ikke så veldig da)
LSK: http://www.kanari-fansen.no/les.php?id=365
Stabæk: http://www.stabaek.no/content/view/710/1/
FFK: http://www.f-b.no/article/20080909/F...752/1220/NYHET
Bodø/Glimt: <ingenting enda>, diskuteres her: http://glimtforum.net/viewtopic.php?...=8494&start=30
TIL: http://www.isberget.no/news/169/66/Eurostand-08
Viking: http://www.vikinghordene.com/index.cfm?id=208881
VIF: http://www.klanen.no/styret/eurostand_08
Brann: http://www.bataljonen.no/?page=26&news=232
Molde: "styret har bestem at vi skal være med" http://www.tornekrattet.no/index.php...55309;
Aalesund: http://www.stormensupport.no/artikkel.php?news_id=1629
Hamkam: <ingenting>
RBK: Fant bare denne: "Det er Eurostand 08 denne dagen, du bær være der!" http://www.kjernen.com/art/4173/
Lyn: http://www.bastionen.no/Nyhet.asp?id=1495
Start: http://www.menigheden.no/index.php?o...d=276&Itemid=1
Bryne: http://www.b-gjengen.com/2008/09/bgj...-200.html#moreKanarifugla flyr høyt i år!Kommentar
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Egentlig ikke uenig, men når det først er valgt 15 minutter så håper jeg at det kan bli en veldig tydelig forskjell - sånn at mange får øya opp for hva det vil si om supporterne presses ut.Vidar Evje
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Jeg mener det funka bra forrige gang [98] med en omgang stillhet. 15 minutter virker litt tilfeldig valgt.
Dessuten: på mange stadioner, ikke minst når VIF spiller sin begredelige fotball, så er det ofte stille 15 minutter i strekk uansett. Kan tro de har sin egen "Eurostand" hver uke. I det minste "Euromumling".Moderate Winsnes Fanatics: Forbanna på Felt C - Frihet for RoyVaadalKommentar
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Perspektiv på hvordan det er i England nå:
(veldig lang, men verdt lesinga)
What is it that Guinness advert proclaims? "All good things come to those
who wait". Well the Footballing Authorities may not have to wait too much
longer until their transition of the game is complete. To rid the game of
the bad and populate it only with the good. No more rowdy behaviour, no more
rebels of society daring to stand up and make their feelings known, no more
problems.
Their ideals consist of fans turning up every week, queuing to gain entry in
an orderly fashion, having booked their tickets 3 months in advance.
Entering the stadium and taking their seats, rising only to applaud goals
where they dance along to carefully selected music over the PA, before
clearing up their litter and disappearing into the countryside until the
following weekend. No hassle, no passion, no noise.
As the game I know and love becomes more diluted by the passing year, I
often wonder just when the breaking point will come. When will those
authorised with sanitising our game realise the error of their ways? Or can
they not actually see that they are breaking the very foundations of what
has made this sport a success? Pound signs blur their vision, seen all too
often in every walk of life. Greed takes over, people want more. They've
exhausted the Premier League "brand" and now have visions of taking it
further afield; the infamous "Game 39". Translated to you and me, meaning
they have milked pretty much every penny they can from the "consumers" in
this country, and now want to tap into the pockets of those football hungry
consumers overseas. All in the name of expanding the pockets of the
shareholders, players and governing bodies of our sport. Our sport, not
theirs.
If I rewind 7 or 8 years; I'm leaving the house on a matchday and making my
way to Anfield. There was no need to ring around in the morning; I'd just
turn up and walk into one of two or three pubs around the ground, and would
bump into people I knew. You knew where everyone would drink, and had done
for years. The same faces, the people that made this club what it is. I can
pop my head into those same pubs now, and I wouldn't recognise a soul. Those
long standing supporters have now all but disappeared, replaced by families
from all over, decked out in official replica sportswear and taking pictures
of anything that moves. There's a smaller crowd of us left and tend to keep
out of the way. We don't conform. Those areas around the ground have now
been taken over by the new brigade, while the old guard retreat to pastures
further afield.
Year after year, more and more people are dropping away. There's still a
hardcore of a few hundred that travel everywhere. There's still thousands
that go to every home game just like they always have. But it's becoming
harder and harder for these people to carry on. Supporters being replaced by
consumers. Participants being replaced by spectators. Just how much higher
can the bar be raised by the controlling bodies before they've pushed away
everyone that gave the game it's appeal in the first place? What happens
when the passion disappears for good? You can't manufacture passion, no
matter how hard some clubs try.
They have mascots running up and down the touchline trying to encourage the
fans. At Bolton they play "I feel good" when they score, with two young lads
running the length of the pitch with big flags. Music played after goals is
now commonplace, as if fans don't know how to celebrate a goal by
themselves. Is it because they realise the passion is dead and are trying to
hang onto a small semblence of it? Or is it aimed at manufacturing a
friendly atmosphere to suit their agenda?
Manufactured support; I can't think of anything worse. Handing out those
clappers seems to be the next step this season, with the whole of St.Andrews
clapping along with them before their opening game. This in a ground that
used to be known as one of the most passionate and hostile in football; now
transformed into a childrens play ground with everybody doing as they are
told. Sat down and singing what the club want them to sing, and clapping
when they want them to clap. So sad. Ticket prices on the increase there
every season, and a ground I now refuse to visit. £40 for an away ticket
some 4 years ago. No thanks. It doesn't take a genius to work out why they
barely fill half of that ground any more.
Newcastle had their lowest league attendance for nearly a decade at the
weekend, with cash turnstiles in operation, entry for £10 if you bought a
replica shirt and other such promotions, but still had thousands of empty
seats. Manchester United have been contacting everybody on their mailing
lists trying to push season ticket sales again this summer. Whereas Old
Trafford used to be like Fort Knox when it came to getting in, they're now
closer to resembling one of the happy hour bars in Benidorm, with teenagers
stood outside handing out cards with promotional offers to encourage trade.
What was once a closed shop, is now opening it's doors and trying to drag
people in off the streets.
Is the football bubble about to burst? I hope so.
On Monday night, Portsmouth's most famous fan, the bell ringer with the blue
hair, or less commonly known as "John", was approached by the ground staff
at Fratton Park and asked to keep the noise down. I'm sure it's not only me
that's absolutely staggered by that. Asked to stop ringing his bell and keep
the noise down, in a football ground! The mind boggles. But it's another
notch on the many that have been made previously, in slowly sanitising the
way we support our teams.
We are told we're not allowed to stand up as it's unsafe; yet rugby sides
play in exactly the same stadia and those rules don't apply. Apparently it's
safe for rugby fans to stand in those same seated areas, but not football
fans (the reasons for that I could write a book on, and will address again).
It's madness. They're also allowed to drink in their seats while watching
the game. I know of a fan that was facing a 3 year football banning after
peering over the exits at White Hart Lane to catch a goal he'd missed when
coming down early at half time. He'd walked down the steps, was handed a
pint by a friend, and heard the roar from the stands. He went halfway back
up the steps to see what had happened, when two officers arrested him for
consuming alcohol in view of the playing surface. It defies belief. But I'm
told we're different. As our friend from Portsmouth has pointed out this
week; would this sort of discrimination be accepted anywhere else, or by
anyone else, but football fans?
I was on a final warning in my old season ticket seat for foul and abusive
language. I was reported by fellow fans for swearing, and risked losing my
season ticket. Now in that seat, I was reserved, very reserved. It was on
the halfway line and not a noise was made all season by anyone. They were
spectators, I'm a participant, or like to be. I want to go to the game and
let off some steam. I go to work to pay the bills, put a roof over the
family heads, and to enjoy myself during my time off. I choose to do that at
the football, something I've grown up with. It's always been a part of who I
am. But in that seat, I had to control myself and just sit and watch the
game, conforming to those around me for over 7 years. I must have sworn a
handful of times in that entire period, when telling the referee where to go
or some other trivial slip of the tongue. Yet I faced losing my season
ticket and not being able to support my side over it. I was one swear word
away from walking away from the game for good. If this was in a family
enclosure I'd understand. I know when swearing is unacceptable, and in my
view, a football ground is one of those places where it fits.
When I go to the match, I want to stand with fellow fans, my friends. I want
to participate in the game, I want to support the side. I want to shout and
I want to sing. I want to do the things that made me fall in love with the
game and going to the match. But one by one, the authorities are trying to
take all those things out of our game. To have us sat in silence, only
singing when they want us to sing, and singing the songs they want us to
sing. Blaring music over the PA system we are supposed to dance along to.
We're unable to create an atmosphere ourselves it seems. For the future, see
American sports for how it will go. Club issue foam hands can already be
seen, dancing girls have been tried, the list goes on.
Keep sanitising; you'll soon be wondering where it all went wrong, when the
very people that made this game what it is, have all long since disappeared.
There's not many of us left. Soon there will be none.
Enjoy modern football. Enjoy scratching your heads in some plush office
arguing with each other about who's to blame when the crowds start to stay
away. I'll be long past the caring stage. You'll have brought it upon
yourselves and destroyed a game loved by millions in the process. I hope
it's worth it.
Sorry about all the spacing and that but I couldn't be arsed to go through it and sort it out.
Every single point in this is so true, football is a joke.Kanarifugla flyr høyt i år!Kommentar
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